you're going to lay people off because now the government is going to help you fund your healthcare. really? i want to have those conversations, not to be confrontational, but to understand what the other side is saying, and i'd like to arm our viewers with the ability to argue with their conservative uncle joe over the dinner table. >> cenk: all right, we're back. we've got michael shure here, our political correspondent. we're going to talk about guns. anna kasparian is here. i call her casper the friendly ghost, i also call her ak47. she fires back. >> nobody calls her that. >> cenk: i used to all the time. >> back in the day. >> cenk: yeah. >> today, the vice president and his gun prevention task force met, this time with the n.r.a. the n.r.a., the national rifle association, opposed to any kind of restrictions. the vice president has said we're going to have to work both sides of this argument. here is what he said after meeting with the n.r.a. today. >> even if what we do only saves one life, it makes sense. i think we can do a great deal about it anyway, imposing on or impingi